Locals React to Concealed Carry Amendatory Veto

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ILLINOIS (WIFR) – Just one week before a federally imposed deadline, Governor Pat Quinn is sending concealed carry back to lawmakers. Today he used his amendatory veto power to change a bill that took legislators months to hammer out.

“There are serious flaws in this bill that jeopardize the safety of the people of Illinois,” Quinn said.

The Governor’s amended bill would cap the number of firearms and ammunition that can be carried and would ban guns from any restaurant or bar where alcohol is served. These changes still need to be approved by the legislature. A number of lawmakers have vowed to override Quinn’s provisions. In fact, the original bill passed both the House and Senate with veto-proof majorities, even if a bill isn’t passed by July 9th, concealed carry will still become legal with virtually no restrictions.

“It’s ridiculous,” says State Representative John Cabello about Governor Quinn’s amendatory vetoes.

“You got people coming in to knowing the folks in certain areas are not allowed to have a weapon, they’re going to come in rob people and worse,” Cabello said.

Kim Frayne, treasurer of the Pine Tree Pistol Club believes the 10-round magazine limit is absurd.

“For example, say I’m walking on the street or going to my car in a shopping lot and four gentlemen approach me and I feel threatened, if I’m going to defend myself it’s going to take many more than 10 rounds, we’re not TV, one shot doesn’t put them down,” said Frayne.

Also, many handguns including Frayne’s hold 15 rounds. Another concern? Law enforcement could be overwhelmed with more guns on the streets, but Cabello, a former police officer says it’s not a problem in 49 other states where concealed carry is legal.

“Anytime they deal with somebody they’re thinking that this person has a weapon, they know how to handle these situations,” Cabello said.

And, if a concealed gun isn’t 100% concealed like Quinn wants, Cabello thinks that’s okay.

“If I have a shoulder holster on and I need to reach into my pocket to get my wallet and I do this, well now you’re going to be able to partly see a concealed weapon.”
Governor Quinn on the other hand says being able to see concealed weapons could make some people uneasy.

Lawmakers will likely be called back to Springfield next week. They either have to vote for or against the amendments as a package. Cabello thinks they’ll be able to override the governor but he is concerned about getting some votes because of the ammunition limit and home rule amendments.

Changes aside, lawmakers and governor Quinn agree it’s essential, anyone who’s packing heat is properly trained. That’s why concealed carry is probably still months away from being implemented.
It could be up to 6 months before any gun owner can even start their required 16 hour training, forcing many gun shop owners to put any potential classes on hold.

Many instructors say they’re not planning any training classes just yet, because they’re not sure what specific practice will be required once the concealed carry bill is signed. We’re told those 16 hours will probably focus more on classroom work like studying legal aspects of concealed carry, instead of shooting at a gun range. Kenny Polhamus of Kap Guns believes this wait will allow more opportunities for gun owners to get properly trained.
“There’s going to be so many people out there teaching the classes that I think if you want to take a class on a Thursday night at 11:30 p.m. at night, you’re going to be able to find one somewhere close. I mean it’s just going to be that many people teaching the courses,” Kenny Polhamus.

Illinois State Police will have to figure out how to enforce concealed carry regulations before any training classes can start, however we’re told state troopers aren’t sure what their role will be until after the bill is signed.
Lawmakers have just seven days to either override Governor Quinn’s veto or approve his changes, otherwise almost anyone could carry a concealed weapon virtually anywhere. A special session has been called on July 9th.
In addition to weapons being banned from any business that serves alcohol, Quinn’s amendment says a person wouldn’t be allowed to pack heat on any private property unless the owner gives them express permission. Gun owners would only be allowed to carry one gun and one clip of ammo, guns would have to be completely concealed, employers would have the ability to ban weapons from their properties, and if you get pulled over, you’d have to tell officers a gun is in your car.


ROCKFORD (WIFR) -- Following Governor Quinn’s action to amendatory veto the concealed carry bill, State Representative (R-Belvidere) issued the following statement:

“The Governor’s changes to the concealed carry bill would essentially gut the carefully-negotiated proposal that the General Assembly worked hard to pass this year,” explained Sosnowski. “The governor’s flawed language would create a patchwork of confusing and overly restrictive laws that would only obstruct concealed carry rights for law-abiding Illinois residents. My hope is that the Legislature returns next week to override the governor’s changes so we can finally have a responsible concealed carry law.”


CHICAGO (AP) -- Gov. Pat Quinn is changing legislation allowing the carrying of concealed guns to cap the number of firearms and ammunition that can be carried and to ban guns from any establishment where alcohol is served.

The Democratic governor is using his amendatory veto power to tweak the legislation sent to him after months of debate and negotiation over the measure.

A federal appeals court ruled in December that it was unconstitutional for Illinois to ban the public possession of concealed firearms and gave it until July 9 to comply.

Quinn says he never agreed with the court's ruling and the bill lawmakers sent him is flawed and needs changes.

The legislation permits qualified gun owners who pass background checks and undergo 16 hours of training to get permits for $150.



 
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