Proposed Concealed Carry Changes
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Posted: 11:16 PM May 7, 2008
Proposed Concealed Carry Changes
Right now Illinois and Wisconsin are the only two states in the U.S. that entirely outlaw citizens carrying concealed firearms. But two board members are pushing a proposal to change that, starting with Winnebago County.
Reporter: Alice Barr
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Right now Illinois and Wisconsin are the only two states in the U.S. that entirely outlaw citizens carrying concealed firearms. But two board members are pushing a proposal to change that, starting with Winnebago County.
Looking back at recent tragedies like the N.I.U. shooting prompts many of us to ask what could have been done differently.
"If there had been a person there, who was of age and who had met the qualifications and chose to have concealed carry and the campus didn't have a problem with it, you might not have as many people dead today as you do have," says Winnebago County Board Member Doug Aurand.
Aurand and a Republican counterpart on the Winnebago County Board will bring forward a resolution at Thursday night's board meeting asking for Winnebago County residents to be allowed to carry concealed firearms, after meeting certain requirements.
"You have to have forty hours of training, you have to go through a criminal background check, you have to prove that you're mentally stable, you don't have alcohol problems, you don't have drug problems and you have to be 21 years of age," says Aurand.
Aurand says F.B.I. statistics show states that enact concealed carry laws lower their crime rates.
"Let's not kid ourselves, the bad guys have the weapons," says Aurand. "Now the bad guy, they don't know who's got a gun and who doesn't."
Aurand believes Winnebago County Sheriff Dick Meyers already has the authority to issue gun permits to citizens. But Meyers says that rule only applies in situations like retired police officers, not ordinary residents.
Winnebago County State's Attorney Phil Nicolosi does not believe the proposal has strong legal footing.
"If the state prohibits a certain activity, a municipality or a county cannot in and of itself go in and say, well we're going to create a different law, they cannot do that," says Nicolosi.
But Aurand says the concealed carry law has never been challenged. He believes his interpretation would stand up in court.
Sheriff Meyers tells 23 News he has the authority to arm auxilary sheriff's deputies, but they have to be in uniforms, separate from those the county wears and performing specific law enforcement tasks.
He can also give retired law enforcement permits, after they complete training, but he does not believe those instances carry over to normal citizens.
Aurand argues there is little difference between arming a retired officer and a citizen who goes through training.
If the county board decides to pass the resolution, after a committe examines it, enforcing it would likely end up in court. Either Sheriff Meyers chooses not to issue the permits and someone may sue, or he does issue permits and someone sues the other way. That way a judge would make the final decision.
Aurand admits the optimal solution would be passing a state law, but since that's not happening, he wants to push the issue at the county level.


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Posted by: gene Location: milwaukee on Feb 1, 2009 at 03:26 AM

why do we have to have some backward states that allow curtain rights for all,and redefine rights of otheres?the right to self protection is a death threat in illinois and wisconsin from gov.s like doyle.protect the criminals and damn the honost citizen to hell.gov.doyles statement to the ccw law,i know whats best for my state,and to carry a weapon for self defense makes no sense to me.criminals in wis.have a right to self preservation and the honost tax payers are dogs in my opinions!while the sheeple keep me in office,i will make sure no criminals will be harmed by any of my tax paying subordinates while they ha,live in wisconsin!gov.doyles fighting words.......power to the criminal elements,death to honost people!no right to carry for protection,to hell with that and the citizen sheeple!
Posted by: gene Location: milwaukee on Jan 26, 2009 at 12:41 PM

i heard the story of a semi-auto going full for about 5 or so secs befor it was stopped.now the courts of that imfomus state wants to persecute.....i mean wants to railroad.....that is condem,well you get the idea,mistakes by actual crimminals is an esscusable wrong,(penilty not enforced)honost hardware failure,distroy a mans life,just a non criminal.isnt the justice family the fairest in this land?justice is no longer blind,just laidback for criminals,but strait back hard on people who make an honost mistake or somthing out of controle not of there doing.justice blind,deaf and dumb downed for carrier criminals only,tax payers exempt from that policy!
Posted by: gene Location: wisconsi on Jan 10, 2009 at 10:04 PM

wussconsin decided that dieing at the hands of gov.doyles fellons and taking as many people who want to carry to the grave with them as possible!wisconsin is a liberal dem.state with ties to curruption since the state was founded in the mid 1880's.if people who live in states that protect there citizens,dont move to wisconsin,diing at the hands of gov.doyles criminals will be easy!our officals dont give a damn!!!